HCV Support's
Donation Drive 2012.
Help HCV Support in continuing it's mission of providing knowledge, support and encouragement to those affected by hepatitis C.

Fundraising Thermometer
Donate Now!
Thanks to all our HCV Support Donors

Author Topic: YO relapsers  (Read 436 times)

Offline hepcatts

  • Knight
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Support Member
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
YO relapsers
« on: December 06, 2011, 03:20:58 PM »
Is there a common time frame for relapse, or do we have to worry about it the rest of our lives?
doomed to live in interesting times

Offline greyrocker

  • Extreme Warlord
  • *******
  • Posts: 5973
  • Gender: Male
  • Life's a Journey; Not a Destination
  • HCV Genotype: 1
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2011, 04:44:17 PM »
I hit SVR at 6 months post-tx and never worried about it again. If you are going to relapse after tx, it's usually in the first 3 months. After 6 months, it's about 99% sure it's gone for good, and 100% after, I believe, 2 years. That's why the top hepatologists in the world are now calling SVR a cure.

greyrocker
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. Nelson Mandela
        SVR as of Dec. 08, 2010

Offline banarep

  • Kulia i ka nu'u
  • Overlord
  • ********
  • Posts: 7611
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Genotype: 1a
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2011, 06:12:35 PM »
rocker speaks the truth.   

after treatment:

12 weeks UND  98% chance of SVR
24 weeks UND  99% chance of SVR
96 weeks UND  99.9% chance of SVR

anymore, if you are UND 12 weeks after treatment ends,  you are "cured".
I hate to advocate drugs, alcohol, or insanity to anyone, but they've always worked for me.    Hunter S. Thompson

Offline ScaredyCat

  • ScaredyCat
  • Warlord
  • ******
  • Posts: 1129
  • Gender: Female
  • HCV Support Member
  • HCV Genotype: 1a
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Relapsed
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2011, 09:33:29 PM »
I had relapsed by 30 day test.  Another person on the same Lambda tx had relapsed at 60 day test. So what br & gr say is true BUT I have heard of people relapsing after a year - they are few and that was on the old meds. Must be that 1%.
I know it's hard not to worry but it takes up too much energy.  :uncertain:
SkeerdyC
Yikes! Did 24 wk clinical trial with Lambda Interferon. UND at week 12 & 24. Relapsed after one month. No VL test at weeks 4 & 8. I would get myself tested at week 4 and 8 next time I treat if the doc doesn't order it.

Offline DougV

  • Senior Administrator
  • Warlord
  • *
  • Posts: 1414
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Support Member
  • HCV Genotype: 1a
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Relapsed
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2011, 10:52:31 PM »
Twice for me, both time VL back in millions 3 months post.

Doing one three weeks post just for grins this time.

Doug

Offline hepcatts

  • Knight
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Support Member
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #5 on: December 07, 2011, 10:59:43 AM »
Once again you people and this site are the best. It sure is easier than researching medical sites, and the answers are in
english rather than Latin doctor speak. week 16 (17) results tomorrow. expecting UND again. think positive, think positive, etc.   Kirk
doomed to live in interesting times

Offline Viper

  • Hepatitic Dragon Slayer
  • Chief Administrator
  • Paladin
  • *
  • Posts: 984
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Genotype: 2b
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #6 on: December 07, 2011, 11:29:23 AM »
Is there a common time frame for relapse, or do we have to worry about it the rest of our lives?

Most common relapse point is within the first 90 days post treatment, second is at 6 month post treatment. There has been the very rare cases where relapse occurred near the 12 month post treatment mark. So far there is no reported cases where relapse has occurred beyond 18 months post treatment. This is all base on the old SOC treatment regime of peginterferon alpha and ribavirin and not the new triple therapy regime with the addition of protease inhibitors. I think you'll see relapse/non-response rates drop dramatically with the new treatment regime and be near the 5-10% range vs the old 40-50% range.

As to having to worry about relapse for the rest of your life.....NO! If after 2 years you still show SVR no need worry its gone and not coming back UNLESS you become reinfected. We can always become reinfected if partake in risky behaviors that put us at risk to contract it again.


 :grin: Viper
« Last Edit: December 07, 2011, 11:33:55 AM by Viper »

Offline hepcatts

  • Knight
  • ****
  • Posts: 271
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Support Member
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #7 on: December 07, 2011, 03:29:17 PM »
absolutely. My doc also qualified her cure statement with the possibility of reinfection. tx is not like a vacccine for prevention. With the global knowledge of bloodborn deseases, it should be a lot more difficult to get Hep "accidently". I get a lot of first aid training with my job, and step one is glove up. Such is the case with every dentist etc. I always worried about my wife as she often has cracks in her fingertips, and I often leave bloody handprints when I come out of my shop to head for the first aid cabinet. Doc says no more worry about that if I achieve SVR.   Kirk
doomed to live in interesting times

Offline tex23

  • Paladin
  • *****
  • Posts: 682
  • Gender: Male
  • "We need a bigger boat"
  • HCV Genotype: 1a
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #8 on: December 07, 2011, 07:02:21 PM »
  1/2 way to 12 week post tx blood test. Not worried about it at all because the results will most likely be blinded to me by the study till 24 week post tx test. I am feeling way to awesome to worry....but way back somewhere in my interferon compromised brain cells it does pop into my thoughts occasionally about svr...but then I stomp it out!
+DX 3-19-09 Geno 1a Start 2nd TX 11-22-10 +Peg-Riba & Alisporivir Baseline VL-6 logs   VL-12-23-10 Undetectable  Finished Treatment 10-23-11

Offline greyrocker

  • Extreme Warlord
  • *******
  • Posts: 5973
  • Gender: Male
  • Life's a Journey; Not a Destination
  • HCV Genotype: 1
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #9 on: December 08, 2011, 12:21:38 AM »
I had an opportunity to ask this question to a top Canadian hepatologist this evening at a dinner meeting. He tells his patients to have one last PCR at 18 months post-tx. If it's UND, it's gone for life. It's been that long for me, so I'm getting the NP to draw my blood Friday.

greyrocker
And as we let our own light shine, we unconsciously give other people permission to do the same. Nelson Mandela
        SVR as of Dec. 08, 2010

Offline 3timerlapser

  • Squire
  • ***
  • Posts: 92
  • Gender: Male
  • HCV Support Member
  • HCV Genotype: 1a
  • Treatment Therapy Countdown: I have 43 weeks left of treatment.
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Undetectable
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #10 on: December 08, 2011, 01:00:08 AM »
All 3 times I relapsed it was in the 1st month post TX my wife has acheived svr she has been und since 2009 almost 3 years since treatment compleeted she still gets tested every 6 months mostly for her own  peace of mind.
Philippians 4:13
I can do all through Him who strengthens me

Offline zena

  • Squire
  • ***
  • Posts: 118
  • Gender: Female
  • HCV Support Member
  • HCV Genotype: 4a
  • Treatment Therapy Success: Treating
Re: YO relapsers
« Reply #11 on: December 08, 2011, 03:13:05 AM »
I only learned about relapsing on this site, I always thought that there are either responders or non-responders! something new to worry about :( starting re-treatment in january and afraid of having high hopes!!
“I guess that's the story of life: what you most fear never happens, but what you most yearn for never happens either. This is the difference between life and fiction. I suppose it's a good trade-off. But I'm not sure.”
― Philip K. Dick

 

Information provided in this site is solely for educational purposes only and is intended to support, not replace, the relationship that exists between a patient and their physician. HCV Support .org / HCV Support, Inc. does not provide medical advice nor endorse any Physicians or Pharmaceutical companies mentioned within the Site. Always consult with your HEALTHCARE PROVIDER regarding all aspects of managing and/or treating your HCV, or any other health related issues you may have.